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The 4th Industrial Revolution - Is College Necessary Anymore?

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  • #31
    LifelongLearner Well said mate! Especially the last bit, where you mentioned that both sides have pros and cons.

    I too believe that traction and mileage on the job can put you in some really decent stead! Your CV will stand out and it'll show that you are already acquainted to a workplace environment, and can adapt to the needs of the organization eg. work schedules, quality of work etc.

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    • #32
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      • #33
        'Every site is a dating site if you're desperate enough' - Sir Hugh Jackman

        No seriously mate, what is wrong with you. I already told you to respect the house rules!

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        • #34
          No no no. Dont act like my internet-nanny. You sir, dont tell me what to do!

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          • #35
            Alrighty then...I'm reporting you to the moderator. Lets see how he sticks up with your tomfoolery...

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            • #36
              I too believe that traction and mileage on the job can put you in some really decent stead! Your CV will stand out and it'll show that you are already acquainted to a workplace environment, and can adapt to the needs of the organization eg. work schedules, quality of work etc.
              Spot on. And there are so many different ways to use education to get going in a career. LOTS more than there used to be. I didn't mention it before, but I've known several people who started out with a certification program that got them up and running and out in the workplace quickly...then their employer ended up providing the resources (like time and money) for them to get a degree. I think it's exciting that there are so many potential ways to do the education thing...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by LifelongLearner View Post

                Spot on. And there are so many different ways to use education to get going in a career. LOTS more than there used to be. I didn't mention it before, but I've known several people who started out with a certification program that got them up and running and out in the workplace quickly...then their employer ended up providing the resources (like time and money) for them to get a degree. I think it's exciting that there are so many potential ways to do the education thing...
                Exactly the case in my scenario. You study for like 2 and a half years and get yourself affiliated to an accountancy firm. They train you and pay you enough to get you going. Once the training is complete, you can enroll in the certification process and the salary doubles up once you get handed the certificate! Just like that.
                The choice doesn't end there. You can choose to work in the industry, consultancy or audit departments!

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              • #38
                StutteringGingerbreadMan lol I see what you mean. Of course it wasn't that easy. Not self-praising, but I usually stood out in class from an early age. Came easy to me. My classmates usually spend 6-8 hours studying. I do 4-5 at best every day. Hope that satisfies your curiosity.

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                • #39
                  I dont think so. its not necessary anymore. 10-15 years ago, may be. but not anymore. Now its a bit more of a choice. if you want, you can, if you don't there's plenty of options in the market and each is as competitive as a college degree, if not better.

                  one factor that has played an extremely crucial role in shaping this is that a college degree will no longer ensure that you'll get a job!

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                  • #40
                    Originally posted by IntlStudent View Post
                    Is attending college on campus necessary anymore? I think it is not personally. In fact, other than the social elements, I believe attending college is an enormous waste of time. What do you think?
                    This is such a tough question! College is so expensive (in the U.S. at least) and I think this is the need ICI is trying to address. I attended a four-year private university and racked up some heavy student debt. Did I learn things in college that I couldn't have learned on the job? Yes. Was it worth the money? No.

                    There is still a need for a college education in many sectors, but I think you have to weigh the cost against the benefits. I think a more fitting question is whether the traditional college experience is necessary when you can take online courses through institutions like ICI at a more affordable price.

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                    • #41
                      I'd think a transition between the campus setting and the online setting would be a more stable platform to aim for at the moment instead of the either/or approach to it. The advantage of campus programs is their emphasis on routines and structure in the syllabus of subjects and phases of learning while the merit of self-led learning is its flexibility. A transitory phase between both would then be a more balanced approach.

                      A student can have some of the structure derived from the campus setting curriculum but with the flexibility of distance learning. There will be more areas to explore, veer around and try out when it comes to obtaining particular skills, combining it with other skills.

                      I also agree that the college degree age is soon fading. It isn't the mere presence of the degree rather, it's more about the skills it represents. So if you have a marketable skill without a degree, your skill will take you to an employer compared to a not so in-demand degree. Best to know the job market as they say.

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                      • Indelible_Mark
                        Indelible_Mark commented
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                        With this non-discriminating virus, a college degree appears to be a poor choice sans surviving to reap the benefits. Online college degrees might still be possible..how robust that degree is relative to the discipline required in a now-evolved workspace is yet to be determined.

                        Pick up a skills course..it would be short and highly applicable as soon as we can all work again..with or without a PPE.

                    • #42
                      I have a degree in Chemistry and it involved a lot of laboratory work. What I learnt in the lab, the experiments, handling equipment, etc cannot be learnt online.

                      For me, attending college depends on the career path you'd like to take. If you're looking at working in IT, for example, then I guess going to a campus would not be necessary. But, if it's something that's more hands-on, then definitely going to uni is required. I mean, would you trust a doctor or nurse who only has an online degree?

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                      • #43
                        I think it takes a hard look at the outside world and an introspection from within to know whether what you want to be can be achieved from going into college.
                        Its a pros and cons question. I believe college builds character and it will test you beyond your capabilities.
                        But it all depends on your career goals.
                        Some lessons can be learned outside the traditional college. Like in online learning, you can develop a lot of skills from your computer without drowning in college debt.
                        Last edited by Kamille; 05-18-2020, 02:58 PM.

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                        • #44
                          It will really depend on one's objectives.

                          If you want to become a doctor or an engineer or an astrophysicist, college education is a must.

                          If your objective is to get into the workforce as soon as possible, maybe best to get vocational courses.

                          If your objective is to hone your existing skills or your craft, maybe best to get certificate courses relevant to your skill.

                          Education, not just college education, is one of the ways to achieve success in your career.

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                          • #45
                            Yes, I still believe attending college on campus is still necessary.

                            There are already a lot of online and distance learning options. But on campus education gives you real life lessons that are not in the books or learning materials that are available online.

                            Training on people skills is sorely lacking in distance learners. Since they are not really required to deal with other people. Just my two cents.

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