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    Questions, Concerns, Complaints about Distance Learning Providers. We would love to learn and grow from your feedback. Share your stories.

  • #2
    I have never had experience with them but this news article regarding Shaw Academy makes certain predatory allegations about this provider in the UK: https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...ter-complaints. I am not sure if it is true or not as I have never had any dealings with them.

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    • sammie83
      sammie83 commented
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      Aggressive marketing tactics are never a promising sign of genuineness.

    • Skye
      Skye commented
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      Shaw Academy has been showing up on my news feed for the longest time. I am only now taking an interest in it because of the free four-week access and having nothing much to do in the middle of the restrictions. Thank you for sharing this article Alex_Ivanovski. You saved me the hassle.

  • #3
    According to the Sydney Morning Herald, some universities in Australia are about to increase student fee's by up to 113%: https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/uni-fee-hikes-another-blow-for-class-of-2020-20200620-p554ih.html while others are to be reduced by over half.

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    • #4
      Call me stuck in the Stone Age, but it takes awhile for me to get sold on enrolling with a non-traditional school. I feel like I will be scammed as there is no "real person" I will be dealing with. But I am slowly, like a turtle, opening up to this new mode of learning. Jyst need to be careful to stay away from fake schools. https://www.usnews.com/education/onl...gree-is-a-scam

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      • Kamille
        Kamille commented
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        I agree. I'm still a bit skeptical in enrolling online as scams are more rampant now that the economy has dropped significantly since the pandemic. Its better to do a thorough research and choose only reputable schools. It is also recommended to check reviews like this one from ICI students. https://www.educations.com/study-abr...titute/reviews

    • #5
      My husband tried to enroll in an online learning platform and what I usually hear from him is the lack of time to do his studies as he is also working. I think it's what sets ICI apart from other online schools. ICI gives you the flexibility you need to be able to juggle your work and studies. Due to the pandemic, my children will be forced to do blended learning. I'm not really sure what to expect but, I think it's possible. It could get a lot of getting used to especially for the parents but it's doable.

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      • #6
        Did anyone hear about the 2019 university admissions bribery scandal???

        50 people were charged for conspiring to get their kids into elite universities through bribery and cheating. Some of those caught included the rich and famous in the United States.

        Schools involved included Yale, Stanford, Georgetown, University of Southern California, Los Angeles and the University of Texas.

        It's a fascinating read: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-lori-loughlin. Some parents paid up to USD $500.000 to get their children admitted.

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        • Lou
          Lou commented
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          Oh, I've read about it somewhere. I think it involves Hollywood moms who want their children to join an ivy league school.I'm not sure though if the school's administration are actually involved in the feat. From what I know, the moms had to pay someone to take the SAT test in lieu of their children. Obviously, whoever is administering the test knew about it.

      • #7
        These admissions to university scams dont only happen in the USA. They happen in our very own backyard in Australia: https://www.smh.com.au/education/uni...14-p5145x.html

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        • #8
          It's sad these things are happening. It's like robbing those who are deserving of their seat in the university. It's true that life is not fair but, to use your money and influence to get your child into a university is absolute nonsense. I mean, yeah, your kid was able to get into "the university" but is it worth it? What did you teach your child? That he/she can cheat her way to anything? Hmmm, just imagine what kind of an individual you made your kid be.

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          • #9
            Ok, so this place is not a university or a tafe. Is it an RTO?

            If so it should be listed on training.gov.au . I could not find it on training.gov.au but I have not searched exhaustively.

            Perhaps ring them, confirm that they are an RTO, and ask for their Provider Number.

            They will need to be a university, tafe or RTO to deliver AQF accredited qualifications.

            In relation to their address, be aware that it is possibly a serviced office




            Just spoke to them, tbh sounded dodgy as each time I asked how I could verify that their course would be accredited toward Other courses at tafe or uni (as All legit places are) they kept saying they were ‘internationally accredited’ which seems to be trying to get away from the fact they aren’t legit in fact. I would hope they are more transparent but, that would hurt their income i would imagine. I don’t want to harm a business but I don’t want others only realising it’s not worth anything until AFTER THEY HAVE PAID.




            adding more content to the page and entertaining the accusations that the organisation is not legit, is exactly what the poster wants. its not a genuine question and only written to discredit the company. please can you reconsider?




            Their courses are non AQF (Australian Qualifications Framework) courses and have little if any recognition in a specialised field. This is not a registered RTO so you are not actuality gaining any registered or industry recognised qualification. You may as well watch a few youtube videos and print out your own certificate IMHO.
            Last edited by Alex_Ivanovski; 07-14-2020, 12:54 PM.

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            • jcoppi29
              jcoppi29 commented
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              I think, after looking around online course providers online, for the most part, it's a general non-sequitur to assume an internationally accredited course is automatically a nationally accredited (albeit, a national qualification) course. There's sadly a difference between international accreditations and national ones because the former tends to be overruled by the latter depending on a country's regulations around a particular field.

              Sadly, qualifications frameworks are a tad more complicated than they should be because it becomes a per country-basis, if those countries impose their local qualifications frameworks or not, thus, exerting influence to employers. It could have been much more simpler or straightforward if there's just an internationally unified qualifications framework, so regardless where you take the course, and which country you're planning to apply it, you'd have a clear level awareness of the achievement obtained.

              Then again, countries like to complicate things by making their own frameworks, hitting eager individuals/workers by making them pay more for local systems. It's quite possible to make a central unified framework for qualifications but I'm guessing, this isn't likely to happen because it isn't as financially profitable for local providers. (wearing my tinfoil hat here loljk)

              This is why the word "accredited" tends to be misconstrued because the technicals between international and exclusive-esque national qualifications tend to be blurred. Generally, such a setting will work for non-license, or unregulated fields wherein a local framework isn't required to get a job. In conclusion, if we're aiming at one country, the best course of action is to find out if there are regulations surrounding a field that impose a local standard. If there's none, it isn't mandated by the government for all qualifications to be only AQF or NVQ or any other framework-specific label, if there's one, at least we'd know what steps to take. It''s generally faster to reach out to whoever is responsible in managing regulations and licenses in an area, I think.

          • #10
            This one is worth watching. Very interesting indeed. Some parents have gone as far as to photoshopping their own children's face on the photos of athletes as part of a ploy to show how athletic their children were to assist with college admission.


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            • Kamille
              Kamille commented
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              I'm amazed how much these parents do to get their children admitted to elite schools. And if they do this much to get admitted, I can only imagine what they'd do to keep them in. Students cheating their way into elite universities have been happening for years. I can only assume that after this scandal, there will be tighter verification of credentials to all the students, regardless of family histories and social standing.

              However, I also understand that running a university is a business, and they do need the funds. I just hope they have equal opportunities for those students that are truly qualified for the spot.

          • #11
            The lack of infrastructure to support online studies is also a silent enemy to those who wish to study from home. Most would assume that everyone has high-speed internet access but surprisingly, not all (including 1st world countries) have access to internet access which is why some still ask or want to mail everything instead of email. That is one hindrance to students who want to do online distance learning.

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            • #12
              There must be some minimum threshold to get admitted into any online course...its an expectation-levelling event to have to read the details of a course. Without a complete idea of what needs to be done, what is getting done is for some value, and that the 'value' achieved IS in fact useful and applicable to my job --seriously if I was not ready to read through the full course expectations how can I be expected to even study by myself!

              Good self-led programs should have an expectations-setting step -something that will not only tell a prospect exactly how he will succeed with and through the course- before getting to a payment step.

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              • #13
                Yes, Mark. A threshold is always a good idea even if it is English language skills or computer literacy for entry into beginners courses.

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                • #14
                  Reconsider what? Asking questions to see if certificate mill?

                  accusations that the organisation is not legit, is exactly what the poster wants

                  Asking questions are accusations now? Stop playing the victim.
                  Last edited by Alex_Ivanovski; 08-14-2020, 05:33 AM.

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                  • #15
                    International students studying Australia have been left high and dry since COVID appeared. They have lost many of their part-time and casual job and they are ineligible for government assistance. Should they leave the country they can no re-enter due to the long term border closures which are in place. International students are one of Australia's largest exports and yet they have been left out to dry so to speak.

                    More can be read about the subject at: https://www.equaltimes.org/internati...n#.XzYTICgzaUk

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